No, You DON’T Need 4 Overdrive Pedals (STOP Gain-stacking)
I have a lot of friends with big pedalboards, and they all seem to be about half filled with drive pedals. While there’s nothing wrong with this, I think there’s a simpler way.
0:00 Playing
0:22 Intro
1:03 Bro (the problem)
2:29 The solution
2:45 The solution (in real life)
3:48 Playing
5:50 What about options??
7:47 Conclusion
This video was heavily influenced by this PremierGuitar article by Philippe Herndon: https://www.premierguitar.com/state-of-the-stomp-more-sounds-from-fewer-pedals
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Originally posted by UCUvGs9QlWOcv9lYJBMrjSyg at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H23abPp9sTU
This is definitely a good approach, but gain stacking does let you sculpt your tone. So, it's not without merit entirely.
I've never stacked drives because it tended to add too much noise. I'd rather have one boost (could be a compressor, boost, or EQ), one overdrive or distortion, and one fuzz. They're completely different sounds, not just stacking the same flavours. It's like the difference between making a jam with three different berries versus having a singular berry jam and peanut butter and salt. All completely different but all adding something the other doesn't.
I said basically the same thing on socials and got a pretty mixed response
I get what is your video is all about, valued lesson, the EQ is a great tool. I can agree and disagree. But maybe for some will help gain staging and thinking about tonality either the amp or whatever each of us are using at home to finde that little something, and enjoy the sound. For me parallel stacking is fun, so it is already one center, and four other od-s, or ds-s ✌????
I've been rocking with 3 for a decade now. Fuzz — Light OD — Clean Boost. The Light OD (KoT or Tubescreamer) is always on. Then fuzz to kick it to another level and clean boost (after the OD) to "make louder".
Like heck I don’t ????
Good stuff, I highly recommend a treble booster instead of more OD pedals
Got one OD set for 'ryhthm toans' lots of gain (Wylde overdrive) and another for lead toans/boost. Both set completely different all knobs. Two phase pedals set differently one fast and obvious the other slow and subtle. The guitar volume trick really only works with tube amps solid states its just not as loud and sounds ecactly the same.
My experience with gain stacking is using one dirt pedal you find you win some but miss something. Then you add another dirt pedal to compensate for the missing part. Then something is too much and you add a third dirt pedal to smooth things out etc. I have landed on getting to know a certain pedal inside out – and use it. I have another dirt pedal on my board with a different characteristic – but I don't stack it with the first one. ????Good video!
Two od
Two boost
3 distortion
To be fair i need to cover a lot of faux ish sound since my amp is roland Jazz chorus ????
That's a beautiful tele
You’re clearly talking about live playing. Good. Volume knob mastery is how you get through sidemen gigs and dealing with sound men. But in the studio the way, uncle Larry does it is the way it works best. ????Also, tell the person who titles your videos not to tell me what to do.????
Bravo!!
The right amount of drive pedals is how ever many fills the empty spaces on the board…
Thank you for this video. Wow when you kicked in the bridge pickup, volume from the clean it was a really nice transition with beautiful intensity. I would love to bring that sound everyday. Tone is inspiring and that was to me. Oh yeah, The fact that you 're playing through a Peavey Studio Pro!!!! Thanks again!
When I'm playing my guitar I ain't got time for some knob adjustments… wtf I only have 2 hands!
I think this solution only works for this kind of psychodelic guitarplaying with almost no gain! (but yeah… it sounds nice!)
I also wonder how this should work with other pedals.
and don't forget… you can also play soft or dynamic to control the volume
I don't think anyone thinks that its necessary to have that many drives. People just want them, I dont see any issue
I use dod death metal + boss metal zon and i feel it's not enough. ????????
Can we just stop posting "Can we just stop…" clips? 😉
I've had a Blues driver on my board for almost a decade and it doesn't even come remotely close to my gain needs with the gain all the way up.. What of boost, Fuzz, distortion? They are all as different to each other as to modulation. That said I wouldn't stack a klon with a flashback, tubescreamer, Blues Driver, Bluesbreaker ect.
You can also use an EQ and turn the gain down for your clean vice versa
I’ve had a bunch of ODs over the years but the BD-2 is the one on my board right now. When that pedal is working for you it’s tough to beat. Special sauce or something. I do back it up with a Rat though because I play fairly clean most of the time and volume alone won’t get me to a heavy enough sound when I need it.
Don’t tell me what I need and what I don’t need. Mind your own damn business.
I’m new to pedals but easily get sucked into the minutiae and getting a “good deal” on used gear with a lot of overlap. I keep forgetting how much the volume affects the crunch on a compressed OD rather than volume output itself.
I already have an SD-1, a Klone, and a distortion. My bank account doesn’t need a tube screamer, Bluesbreaker, OCD, and a Timmy right now. ????
Totally agree. It seems like a min 3 dirt pedals is the norm to sound like a "driven tube amp" into a "pedal platform" amp. What I do… have a great tube amp, drive it – and have a high headroom clean boost to push it when needed. Zero dirt pedals on my board. Use the guitar volume to clean up the sound. Getting the sound of a driven tube amp by driving a tube amp. Imagine that!
And a basic EQ pedal is the most powerful and underutilized pedals around. An EQ pedal can do so much more than most dirt pedals with a relatively fixed frequency response.
the BD-2 is every drive you ever need