The Cure-All Solution for Bad Acoustic Pickup Tone? – Audio Sprockets ToneDexter II
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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 Introducing ToneDexter!
» 2:00 Let’s Get Started!
» 4:04 Let’s Hear It!
» 5:14 What Else Can It Do?
» 6:22 Sculpting the Sound!
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Ok. So, now that you've "baked" the wavemap into the 32 slot for a live gig, can any tone shaping at said gig now be saved into the 32 slot?
Can i hire a pro studio to record my OM 28 with a $9,000.00 Newman and load it up? Can i dial in my other instruments, and save presets for each?
I have a KnK mini in my Martin OM 28 It is going to sound so good. This is ground breaking.
It sounded like a J45 when you were done. Before you started tweaking things farther, It already sounded fabulous. I know it's going to cost me. I have to start making money as a guitar god sometime soon to justify my damn obsession.
Very informative! You've answered quite a few questions I have. I will be training my 3 acoustics in the coming days. Thank you!!!!!!
What’s the distance you should have your mic to capture the guiatr?
Put it in a simple pedal with a couple EQ knobs and I'm sold.
I think it sounds better for sure, but also a bit muffled. It gets rid of that unpleasant metallic squawk that seems to happen at the beginning of each note when you go with a straight pickup.
Astounding! Great video!
Pretty neat but if you have to mic it, why not just mic it and loose the instrument cable?
Great demo, Ben really has really done his homework on this one. You can tell he has used this for himself
I'd love to hear Ben use an IR device like this to get the best out of a hybrid guitar — something like the PRS Hollowbody Piezo. I've been using the Tonex for that purpose, and results are pretty good, but I'd love to hear an expert take.
I've been building impulse responses for my acoustic instruments for years. Super cool to have hardware that can do this automatically. Saves so many steps.
Of course, the big question is comparing the miked tone with the Tonedexter treated tone— NOT comparing the piezo tone with the treated tone. We all know the piezo sound sucks. What we are after is the best approximation of a miked tone. Unfortunately, the video never actually shows what the miked tone of the guitar is. The miked tone is the target, but we are never given it for comparison with the processed tone.
FYI, I already have one of these and it's a great box. Just wish the video showed an honest comparison. Basically, think of the Tonedexter as a custom-recorded Fishman Aura system that can be used on any instrument, with the addition of an excellent preamp system (so, essentially 2 boxes in 1).
It sounds like you have the Anthem dialed to only the Piezo. It doesn't sound like you have any of the mic dialed in.
I have been using the original for the last 5 years and can assure that it is in fact, a game changer. I don't feel the need to upgrade the Tone Dexter II because I use it with my digital mixer which does all the things that the newer version adds in. I save lots of IR wavemaps using different mics and mic placements so I have a lot of options to choose from at each gig and each group I play with.
Damn!! They could have added some basic effects apart from Reverb!! Compression, at least! For the price this should be an all-in-one acoustic guitar processor!!
There is nothing wrong with piezo pickups, mine sounds glorious.
Thanks for the acoustic guitar video!
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Disappointing demo. You don't put the mic directly in front of the sound hole.
Sound after the 1st training is too bassy and dull. That is exactly the sound you get in front of the sound hole.
Direct comparison between mic and device missing. That would be far more interesting than the comparison between pickup and device.
The poor device may even be good…who knows…
Wow! I really need to try this
Can I train a Wave Map on a Taylor and apply it to my Fisher Price??
I have been waiting for this – for years…. BUT, ex the Taylor, the preset sounded too strange, it came alive when the unit was bypassed. Hard to really hear on youtube, but Im so so with the sound, it for sure cures the piezo quak but to my ears it adds a strange artifical sound. Keep working ????
Seems the main thing the learn is doing is listening to the high mids and cutting out the crappy piezo quack. You can do that with your ear if you have a decent mixer!
so i need to buy a microphone as well?
Can you use it with an electric guitar, you make it sound like an acoustic? What a great idea for a video??//????????????????
Pure senzor sound better and clearly. Mapping sounds like treble suppression. Nothing more.
Only question- the anthem has a mic piezo blend, were you all the way to the piezo for this video? I find if I set mine almost all the way to the mic, it sounds every bit as good as your affected tone with this pedal
Tonedexter 2 is the real deal- expensive up front cost, especially if you don’t own a mic- but each guitar then just needs a K&K mini and the per-guitar cost comes down. I’ve had one on my board since launch and played it on stage a few hundred times and had zero issues.
Keep the reviews coming Ben….honest …interesting and straight to the point…plus brilliant musicianship…!!
Just turn the mids and the treble down when you use a piezo.
It would be great if it came with some waveforms by default so you don't need to train it. Wonder if that would be possible…
That playback function is the selling point
Many thanks for your response so far. I am really interested in buying this unit – and I have a few more questions, related to my use of National resonator guitars :
1. Learning Mode – playing medium volume
I play with thumb & fingerpicks and often play quite aggressive fingerpicking and heavy strums, but also softly too (eg. when playing a melody line on the 1st string, with a slide, finishing off the line with a wide, sweet vibrato)
I would like the Tone-Dexter to work well with all sorts of levels of player volume & attack – and I’m not sure it will learn enough about how the guitar reacts/sound with heavy attack, and light playing, just by "learning" at "medium volume".
Or maybe it does cope well with this ??
It would be great if during learn mode, you could play light parts, medium, then also heavy attack parts, to teach the unit more about how the guitar can sound.
Maybe it works quite well already without having to do that ?? Resonator guitars have a much wider dynamic range than regular acoustics, so this may be quite an important factor.
Having said that, piezo pickups don’t cope so well with heavy attack playing anyway, so any improvements would be very welcome in that regard !
2. Microphone Type – can I also use a good ribbon mic ? They tend to give a very natural recording, with a little added warmth. Is that a good or bad thing, in terms of teaching the Tone-Dexter what it needs ? Or maybe it’s purely down to what sound I like the results of best ??
3. Pre-amps – can I use my Universal Audio LA610mk2 (modern combi preamp & compressor) – and the output from that into the Tone-Dexter mic input ? Should I use it without the compressor section ? Will this confuse matters and/or perhaps overload the Tone-Dexter’s mic input ? Would you recommend an output setting on such preamps ?
Many thanks again – I am quite excited as to how this could improve my guitar(s) sound, when amplified at gigs.
Wow!
Hooooooly crap, that's is amazing – an absolute game changer, and such a great idea I can't believe it's not been done by anyone else. I expect this to change how a lot of us record/play live acoustic guitar
Is this essentially tone capture/profiling, but for the mic signal of an acoustic guitar? Could you then achieve the same for free with Neural Amp Modeler? If you already have a mic and interface at home, this could be a useful experiment.
What a brilliant tool to add to your arsenal!! I was plugging my guitars into a Boss GE7 Equalizer and then into a compressor pedal and that did wonders. This is a game changer. BRAVO!!
4 weeks without any bass stuff, what's going on.
Even if you turn the volume down, Ben's beaming smile and look of amazement is a great endorsement for this product….Great video and demo!
500 quid pmsl
Looks really amazing. I have a question: I have a Taylor guitar with ES2 and I use my bodyrez with great result live since the ES2 is in my opinion already a good product. I am wondering if this new unit can make a bigger difference compared on what I already have or maybe is better for someone who really have a bad sound plugged?
It's an EQ
Would also recommend Source Audio EQ
10k videos, a million subscribers, and FINALLY a presenter prepared to use ‘languishing’. Yet another win for Ben. Wonder if Fabian would entertain it on acoustic bass instruments? ????
I have used Headway pickups for about 30 years. They give a very natural sound reproduction of my acoustics and are not prone to feed back. They are a British company, cover a wide range of instruments, simple to fit and considerably cheaper than this unit, as good as it may be.