Simon & Patrick Guitar Review – Woodland Cedar Series
Lee Henke at Rhapsody Music in Mankato, MN demonstrates their new line of Simon & Patrick Acoustic Guitars from Robert Godin. These Canadian made solid top guitars are constructed by hand and generate pure and brilliantly balanced sounds. They are durable and priced very reasonably when compared to other solid top acoustic guitars. Come on down and try one out today!
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Originally posted by UCtEMpZdVvPtDIukbnenXgTw at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJd9R3vl-U
Would anyone have a s&p woodland cedar for sale . ?
Made in the Province of Quebec…. so be more precise as to where they are made.You don't have to know how to speak French to say that.
we dont have southern provinces…just provinces
There are no southern provinces in Canada. But there is an area referred to as southern Ontario – the great lakes region. But these guitars are made in Quebec – the french part of Canada.
You know, I was on Godin's site doing a bit of research because I had a major hunch about something. See, with the exception of the Art & Lutherie guitars, ALL of the Godin acoustics are hand-assembled by the same people in the same La Patrie factory. All their other factories are either for logging/wood processing or making parts. It's the EXACT same people doing the final assembly and QC of Seagull, Simon & Patrick, La Patrie and Norman. So… looking at the specs (dimensions, wood composition), this guitar is virtually IDENTICAL to the Seagull S6 and Norman Protege B18 Cedar.
There's no dimensions listed on the Norman website but these are all dreadnought-sized and as such, they'll all be within a CH of each other. Here's the dimensional differences between the S6 Original/Original Slim and the Woodland Cedar:
Body Depth: S6 = 4.9" WC = 4.91" – Difference of LITERALLY 0.25mm
Body Length: S6 = 19.8" WC = 20.05" – Difference of 6mm (3mm at each end)
Upper Bout Width: S6 = 11.38" WC = 11.21" – Difference of 4mm (2mm at each end)
Lower Bout Width: S6 = 15.87" WC = 15.59" – Difference of 7mm (3.5mm at each end)
Waist: S6 = 10.54" WC = 10.56" – Difference of…. 0.51mm (WTF? LMAO!)
These differences are SO SLIGHT that some of them are within the margin of error and for the others, your tone will be more affected by ambient/room temperature and barometric pressure than by these differences. LOL
The nut is a bit of a different story because the S6 Original has a nut width of 1.8" but both the S6 Original Slim and Woodland Cedar have a nut width of 1.72". Let's put this into perspective here. We're talking 0.08" which is about 2mm. Anyone who says that they can feel an extra 2mm in total nut width is full of it. It's literally 1mm wider at each end which would make the difference between comfortable and uncomfortable to NOBODY. I honestly think it's all in people's heads because I have small hands and can't tell the difference so I think that when people are told that the nut is wider it gets in their heads. I mean really, TWO F#@KING MILLIMETRES? Come on! LMAO
As for the tone woods, well, Godin owns their own forested land so the woods are all from the same forest (except imported woods like mahogany and ebony but there's none of those in these guitars) and all three guitars have a solid Cedar top, triple-laminate Wild Cherry sides and back, solid Silver Maple neck and Rosewood fingerboard. Godin will avoid differences in quality because it's less expensive to make them all the same and it's one of the reasons that they're able to maintain such incredible consistency of quality. It's because they're all made from the same wood from the SAME F#@KING FOREST! It was actually quite an ingenious idea on Robert Godin's part. He is one smart cookie.
We know that Godin's approach to consistency of quality is nothing short of legendary so we won't be seeing any shoddy workmanship on ANY of them. I'd say that the biggest difference between them, structurally, is that Seagulls have that awesome pyramid headstock that keeps the strings almost perfectly parallel to the neck to keep the guitar in tune longer while the others have a more conventional inverted trapezoid headstock.
We may as well face it people, the Seagull S6 Original, the Norman Protege B18 Cedar and the Simon & Patrick Woodland Cedar are, for all intensive purposes, the same damn thing. Just looking at their dimensions and materials tells me that these guitars will sound identical to one another with two guitars of the same brand having just as much likelihood of variance as two of different brands. Oh yeah, the strings will be the same too because it's so much less expensive to do them all the same when you're dealing with mass-production and economies of scale. These guitars are more similar to each other than a GMC Sierra is to a Chevrolet Silverado (and those are identical trucks).
I have two local guitar shops within a three-minute drive from home. One sells Seagull and the other (which is my preferred store), sells Simon & Patrick. There's a kind of territory setup that no two Seagull dealers can be that close together (which I think is why S&P and Norman exist) so the Seagull S6/Norman Protege B18 Cedar/S&P Woodland Cedar are all equivalents of each other, depending on what line the store carries (for whatever reason). I think that the Seagull dealer has been around longer so it has the "premium marque" despite both guitars costing the exact same $400CAD.
Oddly enough, the newer store that carries Simon & Patrick guitars is also a major Godin electric dealer while the Seagull dealer doesn't carry Godin electrics AT ALL. They're VERY Gibson/Fender-centric. It's weird how a little mom and pop CANADIAN guitar store would carry all Fender and Gibson with Seagull and Yamaha acoustics but no Godin electrics, eh?
I play primarily electric and I LOVE Godin electric guitars so you can see why the S&P dealer is my preferred store. LOL
That guitar sounds great. Great bass, but still bright on top. Say hi to Charles Ingalls for me! 😀
Faite au Québec !! that day i went for a Martin (mexico made) nothing wrong with my mexicans cousins, but when i looked to this guitar and played it, it made me change my mind. nice touch, nice tone, nice look, good price and made where i'm living..what else!!!!
I have this guitar, bought it in a second hand guitar shop about 5 years ago. the feel and tone is amazing
Southern Province of Canada lol A little geography read before wouldn't have hurt you my Southern State of America friend ????
he says the neck is maple ? It looks like mahogany to me . It comes from one of the southern provinces of Canada . LOL . I own and enjoy playing my Simon and Patrick Luthier maple body , ebony fretboard model . i live in one of the southern provinces .
Have a Cedar Top / Cherry about 10 years old.
Great guitar, sounds much better as it ages.
Tone is bright rather than deep. Neck profile similar to a Gibson.
Hand built with quality woods and a solid top,
If this were a Gibson/Martin/Taylor it would cost $2600.
I paid about $400 for mine.
Does anyone know if the top on this series is solid or laminate? Thanks, because I see one for sale on CL for $225 right now
cant believe I haven't knew this guitar before… I bought one and was absoutely amazed
Wa-ha-ha-ha-hah!
Ah! Thank you, good sir.
Not from the southern provinces of Canada, Quebec is an eastern province. A friendly fyi