The Soma Delay Sound – Siamese Dream (The Smashing Pumpkins)
This is how I approximate Billy Corgan’s delay sound on Soma (from Siamese Dream) by the Smashing Pumpkins using and Eventide H9 Harmonizer. The H3000 is getting expensive so is this a viable alternative?
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0:00 – Intro
0:42 – What we’re doing
1:50 – How we’re doing
2:15: – Spnlunking
2:45 – Settings
3:33 – Something’s missing
3:43 – The Sound
4:20 – All done
Black Guitar:
2019 Fender American Professional Stratocaster w/ R/S/B Lace Sensors
Tuning – E Standard
Amp:
Marshall SC20C JCM800 in a Mojotone Bluesbreaker cabinet
https://www.mojotone.com/cabinets/vintage-reproduction?page=1
Pedals:
Strymon Deco – https://www.strymon.net/product/deco/
Eventide H9 Max – https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/stompboxes/multi-effect-processor/h9-max
Gear for Recording:
Universal Audio OX
Steinberg UR-RT2 Interface
Logic Pro
#Soma #Delay #Sound #Siamese #Dream #Smashing #Pumpkins
Originally posted by UC26hZ-5k6SJSozdvBp_6L3Q at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-DHyeKgWOg
Does Every h9 have splunking?
I have the Eventide H9 plugin series bundle but not the H3000 plugin. Is the resonator in this bundle?
Is there anything that sounds similar to the h9 on soma for 100-200 USD?
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Is it possible to learn this power on a Meris LVX?
So beautiful man, what an amazing song soma is, the kind of song that stands on a league of its own. I just keep trying imagine how Billy managed to come up with that in 1991-1992, it’s just so ahead of his time. Even today, 20 years plus later it still holds its freshness and a magical sound to it. Just amazing, man, what a great work of yours. Wish we were writing some songs together with that Siamese sound, we could make our own B-sides of such an amazing record!
Killer job, you got closer than I've heard anybody get! I've found you can get pretty close using the Eventide H3000 Band Delays MK2 plugin. There's a preset called Band Pan that does the bubbly thing. You can also select the 4 delayed notes + another 4 notes if you wanted. It's a fun plugin for sure.
Great video, great sounds – well done. Do you think it's possible to get close to this sound with the Line 6 HX Effects?
All this channel has taught me is that i'm not allowed to have hobbies outside guitar with all the absolutely unaffordable shit necessary, lol
The Boss Tera Echo has a similar sound.
This is the sound of my youth.????
Man, trying to create this sound back in the day when I was learning guitar. My dream was to create this sound. I would have killed for this information. Thank you
Fabulous!
dude, randomly came across this video – don't ask me how – but i'm so freaking grateful cause that sound is AMAZING. It gives me chills. Siamese was such a vital piece of my youth that I can't even explain how important it is. i've played the sound part like 40x now and it put me in such a great mood. so thank you!
Might have to try it with my HX Stomp. If not, I have all the Eventide pluigins.
Love that this is a just basically a channel about one album and that's probably because I bought this album age 14, on cassette after reading about it in NME and then my second-ever gig was Smashing Pumpkins on the tour as this record exploded. I still have the tablature book on my shelf but boy were these sounds hard to emulate in my bedroom ! love it – keep going.
Nice, so what are youre thoughts about the Mayonnaise squelch
So awesome! Great job dialing it in. So cool to see
I always appreciate the breakdown of the Pumpkins songs you do. Great job. Been a fan since I was a kid. Surprisingly it was Mellon Collie first then Siamese Dream for me. I didn't have a chance to hear Siamese Dream until later. I believe the Pumpkins did shoegazing done right. It wasn't over the top to where it sounded like radio wave frequency. Yes, there are other YouTubers doing videos on Pumpkins, but your video breakdown important parts on Siamese Dream you can actually find or explain. You play a major part on separating your videos on not just the equipment , but how to set the tone and what other equipment to use incase you are broke lol
Once the band kicks in after that spacious lush sounding intro and the clean guitar tone becomes a little drier, I hear that on that particular tone uses a Boss Slow Gear
Is there an equivalent setting on the new H90?
Sorry I am late to the party, but this is a great tone shaping channel! I’d love to hear your approach to some Gish tones as well, specifically Rhinoceros and Window Paine, am I the only one that hears Rotary/Leslie tones? I keep reading it’s Chorus and electric mistress flanging but that seems simplistic and limiting????
Thanks for the vid. A new preset for my H9.
Have you tried to recreate this sound using the H3000 Band Delays plugin? If so, did you have any success?
Hi, do you know what effects Billy is using in the beginning of this performance to get that ambient sound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kuWvNv7WV4
You really nailed it ! Do you think it’s possible to approach this effect with a Kemper ? Some delays (quad delay) have 4 « voices » where you can set the 4 delay pitches instead of the notes of the H9. It’s also possible to define the intervals between the voices (note value). I don’t know if it’s the same mechanism…
Love that strat
Mad respect on reverse engineering that tone. Cheers!
Big thanks from Russia with love!
You should do a video on the hummer clean sound . Is it just a combination of tape delay, tape saturation and chorus using the neck pick up of the lace or is there more to it.
You are doing the Lord's work sir!
Did they also use this on Thru The Eyes of Ruby? sounds like they're using it in the clean parts in-between verses
Please do some Gish songs! Been trying to get that tone and can’t quite figure it out
The Electro Harmonix Grand Canyon has a similar effect, called Pitch. Will play with mine to see if I can get that sound. I was actually using the MOD setting in the Electro Harmonix Oceans 11 and it sounded great, but well, yours is 100% accurate. Thanks Eddie.
Thanks Jason Statham. This was awesome.
Such a clear and beautiful sound. I could listen to that intro riff on repeat for hours.
Damn dude gotta give credit to your hard work, I’ve been chasing for this sound for so long and you always nail the classic pumpkins tone! Thank you for sharing this! Soma cover anytime soon? ????
Hi Eddie. Thanks for making these great how-to vids!
Your 4th-position tone from your Strat sounds fantastic. Is your Lace Sensor Strat using 250k pots and regular wiring and cap values, or do you have anything different going on to get that sound? I've always gotten a very muddy sound from the 4th and 5th pickup-selector positions when using a Blue Lace Sensor in the neck.
What settings do you use for the Hummer delay, and the Drown outtro delay?
Also, have you ever gone over all of the effects that were used for the Starla solo?
I think I’ve talked to you before about the Reverse Delays on the H9 for the opening to Starla? You should definitely make a tutorial on that as well.
I’m not good at explaining things clearly, so I’ve chickened out on demonstrating the effects of the early Pumpkins Gear on YouTube, even though I’ve invested $1000’s of dollars in vintage gear to do just that. ????
Accurate. And there I was, 1995, trying to get by with an MXR-100 and the Detune on a Whammy 1. Times were tough.
Nice! Welcome back…
Keep telling us the secrets of Siamese dream please
The Dawner Prince Boonar works pretty good too.
Your videos are fkin magic Eddie
SOLD! I wasn't sure what I needed to buy next, but now I do! I'v been acquiring pedals for a Siamese Dream / Billy Corgan pedalboard, and so far I have: EHX Micro Synth, EHX Big Muff OpAmp reissue, EHX Deluxe Big Muff (probably going to replace with MBM IC 78 with mids and a V4/V5 toggle), Boss LS-2 (for parallel Muffs), VooDoo Lab Superfuzz (modded Boss Tone circuit that I learned about from your other video, thank you very much!) MXR phase 100, MBM Dist2 (on its way), Boss PH-3, Boss NS-2, and a Fender Blender reissue. I'll probably order an H9 tonight and eventually I'll want a Boss DC-2W. I don't have a Deco, but I do have the TC Electronic Mimiq Doubler that I run in stereo. I have a friend who has a Deco that I'll have to borrow. Thank you for your videos. Do you have an instagram? I can send you a picture of the pedalboard when it's done.
Been wondering about this sound literally forever, thanks so much!
Fantastic! Thanks so much for making this video 🙂 Can't wait to try this.