Ibanez AZ 2402 – An honest review
Here’s my review of the AZ 2402! This is my personal opinion on these models, they are fun, but come with problems!
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Originally posted by UCXyZLa6gWcqFzhRaJbWYOrw at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_J7IwdxvMI
There’s always a fix for tuning stability unless it’s a Gibson. Change the strings a dozen times, lube the nut, trees, bridge saddles, and all contact points on the term springs, then dive and pull up the trem a lot. AZ slays the RG.
I have the same issue with mine. For the price, very disappointed.
Finally an honest review, Thanks a bunch bro !
I have 3 ibanez az, 1 premium 2 prestige. I didn't notice in mine any tuning stability issues!
Hi, i watched your video about the Azs a while ago. First struggeling with similar tuning stability issues, i changed the parts included. i installed a Wilikinson V100 Trem, a Grph Tech Sattle for saftey the Locking Tuners too and a little Tool from a German Company, called Rockinger Black Box Tremolo Stabilizer. Problem fixed, the tuning stability is amazing even with extrem dives on a floating Trem setting.
I commented this video 4 years ago complaining about a lot of issues on this guitar. 4 years later I can say that this by far the best guitar I own.
Was the intonation set? I don't think it is properly intonated that is why it goes out of tune on the higher registers. I have never seen a straighter string retainer blocks than what you have there.
is that the seafoam blue?
How can I find this color? I dont see them anywhere
Best review ????
Great video and I appreciate your honesty. Just got an Ibanez AZ47P1QM and it has some serious problems. Tuning, grinding trem, buzz spots, unpolished frets, scratches, dents…I didnt know these kinds of guitars had such issues. If you find a solution for the grindy trem please let us know!
Would you reccomend this guitar for someone who wants to play malmsteen and jason becker style (also some blues and jazz)? Or do you have any better guitar reccomendations?
John papucci
…also stop whinging so much man, you almost sound like a woman
You need a roller nut…no matter what you'll do, it will never be as good as a Floyd type tremolo
John Poo-poo-chi
RG person doesn't really feel AZ ?
Holy shit bro, I know this is an old video, but I agree with you on everything you said. I have a 2204N, and even with my bridge decked, I dare not caress that bridge even a little bit. The neck heel bump is all the way up to 15 frets, making it painful to play anything over 17 frets. And the lower horn gets in the way every time. That being said, I don’t know why my AZ has better fret ends than my RG and it’s very light…
having massive tuning issues with my brand new az prestige as well. Also the trem arm makes a horrible squeaking noise whenever i move it. Definitely considering returning it and getting my money back
Good review, I was thinking of purchasing this very guitar. Think I'll pass.
Have you checked that all the nuts and screws are tight on the guitar? On my AZs I had to tighten almost every screw and nut on the guitar.
I have changed the nut to TusQ and its much better than bone for tuning stability.
I also think that everytime you tune a string you need to go through every string again and make sure all strings are in tune and not like you did in the video only tuning one string. Then at the end of the day there is a reason some guitars have a locking tuning system, the AZs are not ment to be used doing hard dive bombs and slacking the strings completely, its ment to be used with some vibrato from the trem arm.
AZs are not intended to have a low action as on the other models like RG or S series. The Radius of the neck is 305 instead of 400 mm so when you bend a string with a low action the string will buzz or choke because of the radius.
1:56 John Poopoochi
which is the best non Floyd Rose Ibanez with a tremolo?
Are you wealthy?
I have same guitar (same surf green)
1. Widen bone nut slot a bit. I think bone nut slot might trap string. While we don't cut bottom just widen nut slot a bit
2. Use pencil as lubricant on nut slot
3. String tree for first & second string is set too low, this creates more break angle so we'd better increase height of string tree then string can move more freely
4. I replaced original tuner with traditional locking tuner which you showed in the video. That can help. Also do not wrap string on tuner. Stretch string at tuner and just lock there without wrapping
5. Lock the small screw within two tremolo post (there is tiny screw within tremolo bridge height adjustment post
Let me know whether above 5 things can help. A lot of time string tree was set too low then that can creates a lot of friction there. String tree, nut slot width, lub are key
Thank you! All the sponsored biased reviews praise the az, while obviously the basic problems are still there???? tuning stability should be taken care of at this price.
Picks up a non-80's squealing chicken-choking vibrato guitar…proceeds to chocke the chicken vibrato…also really bad setup…guitar is bad… This is why you have different tools for different jobs. I am a session musician. Use my Skervesen 40% of the time, my favorite guitar btw. My strat, for practically everything else, best for those jobs, pop/funky stuff. For metal, another skerv, some of my aristides. I never sessioned with my RG. It is useless outside of hair, cheesy stuff. Fun stuff, just no demand for it. The AZ I use for tons of stuff between hard rock and fusion
My gotoh NEVER ever detunes more than a cent, after hours of trem abuse. I sold all of my floyd guitars, prestige Ibanezes included. The tone alone is worth it. I don't know what you do to your gotoh
Did he call Petrucci…. Papoochie? Dafuq?
Great video, thx for going on and on and on. Now that this guitar has been discounted and the price has gone up due to the color I was very interested but now I am little weary based on all the tuning issues you presented. Has there been any updated model since this that have addressed these issues? Any resources or videos you could provide on evening out high SS frets? Thank you.
Thanks for the great review! It's a shame to hear about the QA woes – it can really spoil the enjoyment of an instrument. I had the same with a Fender American Ultra strat, and it doesn't matter how well regarded an instrument is if the one in your hand feels kinda crappy.
I'm with you 100% ????????
Nut has to be filed down then your tuning problem is over.
Even with the Wilkinson WLS130 saddles it won’t stay in tune? What a shame. I loved my AZ but tuning stability drove me crazy. Was hoping the saddles would’ve worked
14:35 Agreed. The thing about the SAANJ is it goes a bit too far up the neck for a 24 fret guitar so it is inferior to the 30 yo AANJ even though Ibanez did profile its shape. Depending how high you strap the guitar you can play like a C-shape G or A arpeggio with the root on the A string, 22nd or 24th fret respectively, for Jason Becker type stuff for instance, but that does feel more stretched and less easy than on any RG since 1994, Genesis line aside. That's not that big an issue for most people, but definitely a bit of a downgrade.
It's a shame Ibanez barely offer the Ultra neck anymore–not that they used to do that a lot either–for people who want the ergonomics of a RG without the super thin necks.
Malmsteen and Ritchie Blackmore have been utilizing Fender's vintage tremolos for decades without experiencing tuning issues. Perhaps there is a secret technique they employ
Well, my USA G&L with their 2 point bridge do not give such tuning issues even with their vintage split head tuners where you cut the string and push perpendicular into a hole in the middle.
Where did you bought this kind of AZ Guitar Color Mint Green ? I can't find one in Ibanez Distributors this kind of color
Thank you for honest review. It really helped me with go no go decision.
It's wild how you bought two of a kind of guitar you don't really like. Help me out with some career advice. I want to go into whatever field you're in. That's a lot of expensive gear and you're like half my age. WTF have I done with my life? Is your full-time job music related? If so, I'm screwed because I am not a great audio engineer and my musician skills aren't going to win many auditions. 🙂
I was going to buy this model second hand here in Melbourne..
I took along a ten centimetre straight edge ruler and a 30 centimetre straight edge…plus a guitar tuner..
1. I placed the steaight edge ruler at various points on the fretboard and it was a disaster …high frets all over the place….on different strings…it failed that test…
2. I tuned it up…did a coupe of dive bombs….out of tune…not played unless you re tune.
I thanked the seller for his time and left..
Very dissapointing…
Would you say this is any worse than other non locking trems?
Google guitar nutbuster. If you get that product the guitar will never go out of tune again.
The charvel rick graham sig blows this out of the water in my opinion.. used you can get it for about the same price as a New az
Maybe try putting in a Vegatrem? Never tried it myself but it looks great. Lots of videos on Youtube claim it has excellent tuning stability.
At 8:06 you pop the bar bar and talk about tuning instability and I here you're bone nut catch, very common with bone nut it's catching, I put 600 grit wet dry paper under string and nut fully tuned, work it back n forth 4 times, problem solved
I have az2402 tff and the problem that I have with me is that there's ground earthing…i have open up the guitar but still couldn't fix it… please kindly share if you have a solution to this
I have a question for anyone who could help, Im seriously interested in buying one of these, I dont really bend the strings much cause I prefer sliding, and I use 10-52s and dont really dive bomb, more of just flutters, will I have the tuning problems like he described, because I dont really think how I play leads to much detuning