Different Bass Gigs, Different Bass Rigs ⚡️
In this video, we discuss different bass amps for different gigs, the pros and cons of tube vs solid state, the pros and cons of head and cab vs combo amps, speaker sizes, and lots of relevant bass amp information to help you choose what’s best for you.
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Can’t believe it wasn’t titled different bass gigs, different bass rigs ????
This has been very helpful, ty! A couple of questions though…
Can I use a Boss EQ-200 as a DI and use the 2nd output for as a monitor channel to a smaller 25watt bass amp?
Would an MXR Bass DI fill in as well as a standard replacement for an amp with a PA system while having the 25amp Solid state as a monitor?
Call me an old fart
Been using a 410 with a 400 watt tube pre and solid state heads since '87. At 57, the more compact the better.
Dampingfactor, Dampingfactor, Dampingfactor.
I'm going to listen to the whole thing because I want to see if you remind the viewer to never use an instrument cable for a speaker. Great video…wish I'd seen it sooner (I'm one of those guitar players who is learning the bass and I had to have a tub rig….now I have a great sounding set up that I'll never take out because it's too heavy and too expensive).
if you play small basement shows I promise 100 W is more than enough to fill the room, "tier one" is a little misleading if you're a small musician
11:45 – I thought we were going to get overdriven Rhapsody in Blue here….
Great video! I think a video about ohms, watts, and such would be great for bass players! Some info out there, but nothing great.
Also, have you thought about making a video on maintaining a tube amp? Or different kinds of tubes and tube sounds?
I use a 500W 210 combo and will add a 15” extension cab if I need more volume. It has a valve pre and solid state power amp.
I've been getting by in a rock band with a 200w micro head.
I've played outdoors with an 8×10 array and you just turn it all the way up, it's plenty loud.
My dyslexia kicked in and I came here for "Maps".
Stayed for the "Amps". ; )
i use a ampeg svt 7 pro and a boss eq 200 , in the effects loop ,(eq for each bass switching mids also) through a carvin neo 4×10 cab ,wired at 4 ohms (1,200 watts) with detachable casters. (non vented).
this could not have come out at a better time for me, personally lol
Great stuff! This video is nuanced and detailed enough without derailing the big picture. Great job ????
at 24:18 is that an octave pedal turned down real quiet? sounds amazing x
where is the video about the head with differents cab please?
thanks for this video, it's very informative
These new amps are so inefficient, an old school analog amp of 200+ watts will keep up with a loud band if your driving speakers with ceramic magnets. This is really important if your playing bars and basements, if bass really carries in a room 1 15 is enough and you and the rest of the band are probably on the same breaker! You 2 lb amp that's 800 watts will rob power and volume from the rest of the band! That amp will cover all your gigs and be a lot cheaper.
For me it’s the lightest rig that’ll get the job done cus I’m not tryna have any back problems.
15” is the only good speaker! Come at me bro! JK.
Early days of internet, I was in a chat room and a couple guys got really heated over using picks or fretless lined v unlined. Mom’s were mentioned AND THEN A HERO chimed in, “Gentlemen. Calm down. What is this? A drummer’s chat room?”
Question here ????????
I have a Marshall DBS 7400 as my main amp, so 400w. Valve preamp but solid state power amp. I also have as a backup /lightweight solution amp an Ashdown Root master 500. All solid state, class D power amp.
The Marshall I rarely need to exceed 1 o'clock, but the Ashdown I have sometimes had to run it at full power… Needless to say the go into the same cab.
So is it because big solid state are more powerful (maybe peak power) than the compact class D ? Or is it the frequencies these amps emphasize (the Marshall has valve pre…) ?
My Fender 100w BXR from the 90s keeps up with my band, I dont turn it past 4, it moves a lot of air.
When I started playing in the early eighties, I used a '78 jazz bass into a Peavey TNT 130 watt combo with the 15" speaker and that thing was so loud I seldom needed to turn it past 10:00 o'clock…even in a rock band. Parametric EQ, great full sound, but the amp was very heavy. These days I use a Markbass CMD 121 combo (excellent amp, 300W into 8-ohms) and 121 extension cab (300W 8-ohm cab) for larger stages. This combo is much lighter, and with the extension cabinet allows the full 500W into 4 ohms, which is more than enough for any musical situation I find myself in. Interestingly, even when running both Markbass amp and cabinet, it is not perceptively louder than the old 130W Peavey was, but it does sound a little 'fuller' and is a hell of a lot lighter…
I’m not a bass player, but this was really helpful and interesting for me (guitar player in a band).
In my opinion, the engineer is right not the guitar player. Guitar players can get their tone and keep volume down with an attenuator or even better by choosing the right amp for the gig. My ears are still ringing from being in loud guitar bands in the 90's.
Rock amp tier three is all I’ve ever needed. Everything larger usual have P.A. support and thus you don’t need anything more than their three. However the way technology is going, amps won’t even be part of the equation.
You missed one important thing for beginners. People who are new to amps REALLY need to be told not to use a guitar patch cable as a speaker cable. Other than that, great video.
My solution has been an 800w hybrid amp into a 210. Any gig that needs more speakers usually has backline or has a powerful PA in my experience.
As far as tones my solution to the clean/dirty debate is to have my saturated tone be what it is but drive a lot more compression on my clean sound. I've been finding that is helping my clean sound hand with my saturated sound.
I totally understand for the engineers but i will follow the old Cream concerts setup or Al Cisneros. Running mulitple stacks moving air. Im not playing for the audience im playing for me and yes that may be selfish but if im not feeling it. How could the crowd?? Again i get this is the way live music is heading and I really really respect the musicians that can play a silent stage, its just not somewhere i want to go.
Amazing content, lucky to stumble upon your channel.
Very insightful, thank you Mr. Conrad.
Watts aren’t volume, SPL or DB’s. You could make a useful video showing the difference in room volume with different speakers (neo/ceramic, 10/12/15”) with a given amp head. Then compare those samples to all tube , Solid State and modern Class D.
Again showing the real world difference in SPL and dB’s.
Have a question for you guys, in Rome doing a synth bass gig left hand keyboard in a power trio format. I have a Korg Prophecy as keyboard and a Moog Slim Phatty midi’d together, any recommendations, not your normal thing. I have a MarkBass 802 8 ohm right now (not enough for sure) that I could put a 15 inch 8 ohm cab to put it to 250 watts. Need to move some air, any recommendations that I don’t need a semi to move. Thanks.
There is a HUGE difference in Solid state watts and tube watts. My PF50t is easily as loud a 300-400 watt solid state amp.
Tier 0 Opus to phones or tv sound system
Tier 1 borrow my bud’s SVT microstack -100W
Tier 2 (my fav) PF50T and flipped 115 cab -50W
Tier 3 hopefully a back lined SVT because they too big to lug -300W
Noiseless: (I also hate them) two notes Opus
0:44 #Blessed!
Nice "rule of thumb" for amp power. I find this useful.
I play in a pop punk band and use an Origin Effects Bass rig super vintage into a Seymour Duncan Powerstage 700 (700 watt power amp) into an Ampeg 6×10. This setup allows me to send FOH the preamp and 8×10 cab sim while the 700 watt head and 6×10 are for stage. That means no matter how low or loud I need to push the stage rig, the tone remains the same at FOH and in the IEMs. I find a 6×10 to be the Goldilocks IMO. Gives you the massive feel you want from a big rig, but not as monstrous or crazy to move as an 8×10 or going to scare your sound guy as much.
As a primarily jazz guy, I friggin hate noiseless stages. Played on one once and there was no connection between the musicians and the music.
I'm 72 played since I was 15. Phil you are right on the money.
I play now without rig. I've had them all. I use cans not in ear for the sound compression.
Watts are measured logarithmically therefore 10 watts is half as loud as 100 watts. 100 watts is not twice as loud as 50. Within a 100-300 watts range of amplifiers the difference is more about clean headroom available than overall perceived volume.
More please: Amp math – the ohms and the way to mix the heads/cabs and the 'output' from different ohm cabs that are compatible with the heads. I'm probably not explaining it well (or correctly) but I hear that if your cab is 4 or 8 or 16 ohms and your head will handle any of them, that output volumes differ – aka, if you buy a 500 watt head, and then have an X ohm cab, you might be limiting it to half that power, etc.
you can get an attenuator for tube amps like the OX box. I think most are for guitar amps, and some are more expensive than others. So I guess another part of the question about "do you turn down or keep the volume to get tone" is do you shell out the money to play smaller gigs?