Do all guitar amps sound the same when using the same speaker cabinet? #2
In this particular video I’m playing through multiple amps into one cabinet to demonstrate that the sound of each particular amp isn’t just because of the tube circuits, the sound of the cabinet is a huge part of the sound as well. The next video (Vlog #3) will show the amp with it’s respective cabinet for comparison.
In this video I use:
Fender Deluxe Twin
Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue
Shaw Plexi Clone
Dr Z Maz18
Vox AC 30
Orange Rockerverb 50
Fender Deluxe Reverb 01:39
Shaw 02:19
Orange 03:11
Dr. Z 03:53
Dr Z (EQ at 12 o’clock) 04:56
Fender Twin 06:08
Vox 06:58
Vox (Top Boost) 07:40
Vox (Top boost, Bass at 0) 08:57
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Originally posted by UCdVrg4Wl3vjIxonABn6RfWw at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzZGr4qqCQo
Facts destroying people feelings. Just buy an amp you can crank at home, gigs, wathever and a good cabinet with speakers of your taste for rock n roll pruposes
Play the speaker, not the Amp or Guitar. Speaker makes all the difference.
You played a bunch of A and AB class tube amps all clipping the tubes made in the same factory, at full distortion. The difference between the amps is the name plate at that point.
Spectre Sounds made a video on the same thing, saying the speaker is everything. Yet both of these comparisons are fully distorting (there is very little difference between how tubes will distort, and solid state designs all try to emulate that).
Do the same test in the ranges that emphasise the design choices of each company, rather than what tube overdrive sounds like (most tubes are built by the same company and rebranded). What you are doing is basically a guitar amp “burn out” and saying that because the rubber smoke looks the same, all amps are the same. Some definitely are, but that’s because they are copies of each other. A deluxe reverb, vs a Vox, versus a Marshall, vs a dumble, vs sovtek, vs a Roland etc etc …this is when the difference is apparent, because these are all are very different design choices (whilst all being class A AB)
"I got my nut fixed on my G-string"
Thos is a real cool comparison.A marshall would be used as the standard.Vant beat a marshall.
Perhaps this was an inspiration to Jim Lill
the cranked dirty channel on the Vox requires a treble boost historically, no?
"got my nut fixed with my G string…" 1:34
Certainly helps they're all lovely amps
Amp room is a standing wave machine
Um…. No
Of course they all sound similar because every amp maker in the world copies Marshall! You can’t beat a Fender Twin for clean, and you can’t beat Marshall for crunch! Plain and simple
I remember seeing an AD30 on an oscilloscope and the frequency response was almost flat. Everyone will tell you it’s a kid forward amp. That’s bull. That Celestion v30 is horribly mid rangey (boxy). I changed it out for a Fane copy. A much better sound.
All sounded the same to me, lol.
The high gain Vox benefits from a treble boost – cuts the bass & crispy highs
They all sound the same
first amp sounded the best by far clear and badassssss
The Vox amp would sound better if you turned up the mids. You say it’s at 11, but it’s actually at about 4. (I know it’s been 5 years)
dr z with 12 o clock EQ sounds the best to me!
i usually dont like dr. z amps, but I actually like the bitey sound of it
I wanted to hear the tweaker against these, and some sort of single coil loaded guitar
I run an EVH, Mesa Boogie, Tweed and Marshall JVM through the same cabinet and they all sound unique no matter what.
The speakers to me sound too "woofy" and scooped in the lower-mids with a spike in the upper mids. Ditch those speakers for JBL E120's, Eminence Commonwealth, or a Fane. Out of all of the amps played through the speaker, the Doctor Z with its lesser bass response actually sounds half decent with the cab. The Shaw amp is begging to be played with a 4×12 cab with Greenbacks.
Wife: why do you need another cabinet?
They do sound relatively similar with a couple exceptions being the Orange and the Vox which sounded much darker than the others.. So, the next question then is, does the speaker cab or the speaker itself make the bigger difference? The speaker seems like the intuitive answer.. But then again, you would assume the amp makes a bigger difference than the speaker cab and this video put that 'intuitive' belief at least into question, if it did not outright disprove it…
Keep looking at the egnater, waiting for it 🙁
The Twin sounds great cranked…
The overdrive is drowning out the tonal differences (right?). I wish you would have played them at the edge of breakup.
I do believe the speaker and cabinet have a very major effect on tone. I do have a Fender Princeton Reverb `68 (FSR) and a Vox AC15 and both have Celestion Greenback speakers. They're very different sounding amps. Fender has 6V6 and the Vox EL84. The Princeton has a more open back then the AC15 and only a 10´´ speaker vs the 12´´ in the AC15.
My Bandmaster and Traynors destroy Marshall's
nnde…
I thought difference should had to be way more noticeable.
Seems like it is only up to components and circuit and yes, simple effects may neglect all this difference with ease.
Decades ago, there was no such versatility in sound gearing so professional musicians had no options rather than building hardware sound configuration, but nowadays in fact you need non-equalized sound as clear as possible and some number of processors and pedals to get all of this.
So boutique guitaring is so boutique…
Thanks for the vid, now I want good modelling procesor and modelling combo rather than certain head and cab config.
So, I’ve always said my hearing was so amazing that I could hear a fly fart across the room. I must be losing it because there was very little difference to me.
You got your nut fixed from your g-string?? Ouch, sounds like an epic injury ????
They sound very similar. Except for the Vox. Which sounds too dark. But it has authority so to speak. I was surprised the Fender Deluxe Reverb sounded so good.
I've always had the same feelings on the vox. I can HEAR it through the video as well… Probably just because I know what I'm listening to. Great video! Great pedals as well!
Can hear they all sound good. But sounds like you are listening through a blanket.
I been cranking a twin for a while now amd folks are finally starting to catch on.
So could you run a jcm800 on a Randall cab? If so do you think it would still have that Jcm 800 sound?
Does Orange have a clean channel?!!! Sounds good????????
You gotta get the Treble up around 1 O’clock on that Vox. That will open it up a bit.