FRETLESS BASS – THE MISCONCEPTIONS OF GOOD INTONATION /// Scott’s Bass Lessons
This is a clip taken from this weeks Academy Show over at Scotts Bass Lessons… I wanted to share it with you guys as I think there are many misconceptions when it comes to playing fretless bass – hopefully this will clear some up for ya! 🙂
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Originally posted by UCWTj3vCqkQIsrTGSm4kM34g at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYPQ-9qlsBo
Geoff when he was an NPC.
Dont look at fingerboard!!!!
5:11 He could’ve also played that 4th fret harmonic on the 9th fret, sounds the same
What model of bass is that ???
what is the brand of this bass?
Looks like a string is missing ?
Good intonation? It’s a f***ing miracle when I hit the right note!
where can i buy this Ibanez Intertour acoustic 5 string bass ?
This was so true. I had no trouble transitioning from fretted to fretless because I never thumb wrap and play with a very relaxed and open left hand, fingering right up against the frets. A few minor adjustments and I was good to go on a fretless.
It’s a fret less bass, can’t you just tune the note by ear? Like on an upright there aren’t exact points it changes with humidity and temp. You gotta move the left hand to be in tune
But this doesn't cover boards with no lines. Also, your eyes are glued to the lines. That's not good.
What about the intonation for leading tones?
Well of course he is playing in tune. He’s looking at his fingers on a fret lined bass!!!
Now do it reading a chart or not eyeballing your fretboard while playing some tough jazz changes. Let’s see Mr S D do that and I will genuinely be impressed.
What strings are you using on this bass?
It helps to have the "frets" drawn on the fingerboard!
You made a fretless acoustic bass sound just like the electric jazz basses you play. So acoustic tone is deleted. Ish.
Intonation is a Western myth ????????????
Model bass ?
It is better in my opinion to set the intonation exactly on the 12th fret line!
"I learned this from Gary Willis"
What bass is this?
Bass Guitarist: (Goes on about playing in tune) Double Bass Player: "MmmHmmm…"
My first ever bass is a fretless one and I still play only it 🙂
I’ve tried fretless only once in my life. It was a 6 string and I could play it easily.
You need to use double bass fingerings if you want to play in tune without looking at the fretboard. That is the #1 thing, bass guitar fingerings are all over the place
Essentially, a linchpin of pitch control on a fretless bass involves relaxing the palm of your hand? Definitely makes a lot of sense. I think this might be the first time I’ve gotten a look at anyone playing fretless from behind the neck instead of in front.
Such a great sound and playing. What is the name of this fretless bass?
I thought this was a Reverb video for the duration because of background…
Question: On a fretless bass with fret markers, do you place your fingers directly on the fret markers or behind them? Answers will be greatly appreciated by anyone and thanks..
Does anyone know what kind of bass this is I like the tone that Scott gets out of it?
I know this is an old video but how do you practice good technique when you lost your index finger? Any pointers?
I want that bass ????????????
The secret of good frettless playing actually is: String a 5 string bass with 4 strings.
This gives you lots of space to move sideways on the frettboard.
Wait….
It's all about using your ear. I never think about my finger placing. It adjusts naturally
I don't hear good intonation here because every note at the end of the phrase has vibrato on it – he's not committing to a pitch
It is so much harder to unlearn than to learn. Develop proper left hand technique from the very start. Fretted bass is actually harder because of the fret noise. I got lucky. Everybody I liked held their hand a certain way, so I did too. So when I began to study I was correct.
Excellent!
One thing to keep in mind on fretless is to tighten up the spacing as you move up the neck. For instance if you want to slide an octave you MUST not keep the same spacing the same as you slide. You have to consiously move your fingers closer together as you slide up. It becomes second nature after a while, but can be a bitch to master at first.
good technique is vital but the thing that a lot of bass players who dabble with fretless don't realise is how you need to be right on the fret mark. the fret on a fretted bass allows you some mm of wiggle room without affecting your intonation, being "off the mark" on a fretless will make an audible difference in the intonation on a note. i think that's what most bass player worry about.
“Practice fretless in the dark”. HaHa, I used to do that back in the late 70’s. I didn’t know it was a thing.
So cool to see you hanging out with Geoff from DDB. Love his lessons as much as I do yours.
Good point about not playing because you don’t intonate well. If you don’t play, you never will develop your ear and intonate properly.
Cheers,
RayK
For those of you who are looking to improve the shape of your fretting hand, I have a technique that has been successful for many of my students:
I tell my students to hold a good size orange or a soft ball as a template or as a guide for an ideal fretting hand shape. Or you can imagine holding a round ball about that size to create the preferred shape for your fretting hand. You will notice a nice concave pocket in your palm. This shape in your palm should be able to hold something like a tablespoon of water. These ideas are used to trigger your hand into a posture that already exists in your muscle memory.
Comment any constructive criticisms, insights or ideas about this subject.
I love how Scott is always putting out inspiring intros with every video; I love it!
The tune Jaco is on the self-titled Pat Metheny Group album, and the bass was played by Mark Egan, not Jaco! It's wonderful bass playing as well. There is at least one live performance of it from back in the day on You Tube.
And THEN we have Jack Bruce….!!
For heaven's sake, YOU FORGOT TO PUT ON YOUR G STRING!