The CRAZY TRAIN SOLO ANOMALY (Why it always sounds off when we play it)
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I can guarantee he did that on purpose .. they did many play backs in the studio and doubled it for a reason ..
Just learned this solo today so now ima see What im missing from it
Oh wow
Its the things u definitely feel and hear but unless you know about music you can't quite point out
Sounds like x raying Van Gogh paint spotting theres secret layer.
I just got teased the entire video waiting to hear the solo
NEWBIE… LMAO!!
Cool. Basically also what Zakk says he does live, he has 2 different kind of amps set up and layered stacked so each one has a different “sound”, but when combined at the same time, the sound has a much more massive feel.
Very interesting. You're very good at explaining the techniques.
Some just reposted the Jas Obrecht interview with Max Norman from 1982 and this is what he said about Randy and the Crazy Train solo: This is one of them that was triple tracked. If you listen to that track real close, you’ll hear there’s one main guitar around the center, as I remember, and there are two other guitars playing exactly the same thing, panned to the left and right, but back somewhat. And actually what happens is you don’t hear them – you just hear it as one guitar. He was the best guy at overdubbing solos and tracking them that I’ve ever seen. I mean, he used to blow me away.
So on a lot of those things, when you hear a guitar that really comes out, that’s because there are three of them there. And it’s not like an ADT [automatic double-tracking device] – he’s actually playing them three times, which means you get a very stable image. It really does sit there, rather than shift left or right, depending on where the delay is. That’s really the reason for that. Plus it’s a Charvel – they have an extraordinary top end.
It did. I was schooled.????
Thank you Buddy Randy is one of my biggest inspirations and influences on guitar this further honors his legacy thank you
He triple tracked
You can also try slight bending or half bending the dissonant notes in the solo to get the same effect
I noticed he didn't play the same notes when I started learning crazy train many years ago. It was especially noticeable on the runs that are chromatic trills. I could never get as "full" of a sound as he was getting either so I knew he did a double take and didn't play the same notes. I just ended up doing a hybrid of the two guitars.
Ozzy was so high as a kite that he didn't notice what Randy was doing!
i remember being so discouraged as a kid in the 80's not being able to perfectly play some solo's as transcribed – trying to slow cassette tapes down, stretch the tape, etc…
only to finally see a live show and what they played live was literally about 2/3 the notes on most of the fast runs….
i couldn't believe it – my initial instinct as a kid was that they did it "wrong" (but how could they? they were literally the artist!)
then I thought the transcribers were wrong….
ah, live and learn…
Great demonstration. It really showcases how Randy took an intuitive approach to recording and double tracking this solo. He didn't obsess over creating an entirely different double solo but instead threw in a few differences at key points to create an attention grabbing sound that adds even more uniqueness. You can tell that he valued both technique and the sheer fun of playing
This explains so much…
Spent ages on this years ago trying to get it right.
That is freakin awesome! Been playing over 30 years and never knew that
You dont even look over 30
I panned it to the left and learned it by ear with the amazing slow downer. https://youtu.be/oh5Mfzuyk5E?feature=shared
Lynyrd Skynrd did the same with all their solos.
All the guitar players .
Al Cooper was astounded Gary could play a solo and turn around and play it again exactly .
All their solos were worked out and never changed.
They never improvised.
Astounding.
No guitar song has ever been played the same twice by any person ever. The electrons, protons, neutrons will never be the same from take to take. There will always be anomalies. This is part of what makes live shows so amazing.
I dono if it was the classical music training or what, but he would do some unusual shit that just sounds so good
Thats why it never sounded just right when i play it. So freaking cool you made this video
Randy was great. I believe he even triple tracked it.
just picked up my guitar again after 5 years after 're discovering' Randy, and found this channel recently, love this channel, keep up the great videos!
I just covered the solo and I think it sounds pretty close to the original
Sorry but in crazy train the guitar solo was not layerd on top of each other. You are confusing the songs mate. Fiind the video with the original studio version. In some live performannces of Randy,you will see there is no such thing.
when you get so good that you can purposely play wrong things in the moment and it sounds cool anyway – tension release!
I wonder if the mimic pedal could get you closer
Art by accident. Nothing else.
Analog delay set to around 50 and mix around 60-70 is what I do
Randy just played it wrong. That's the reason for the anomaly. He didn't only doubled it, he trippled it. Left, right, and middle. If you listen well, the volume increases significantly when solo begins. It's fast and has a lot of tappings, so he also made timing mistakes. He obviously didn't care about the details since high distortion covers most of his mistakes. It's still a good solo and a good song.