Why It’s IMPOSSIBLE To Get “YouTuber Guitar Tone” At Home
Why Your Guitar Tones NEVER Sound Like The YouTubers You Watch And Copy.
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#IMPOSSIBLE #YouTuber #Guitar #Tone #Home
Originally posted by UCueME1RtSxAxS4Jtq_QvXBA at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5AxpOPMXT0
The elephant in this room is really, really big.
The biggest difference I’ve seen over the past 20 ish years is definitely the bridge distance to the bridge pickup. HUGE difference in tone
Let me also pitch in my 2 cents.
Pickups make a difference.
Hardware makes a difference.
Strings make a difference.
Construction makes a difference.
Wood makes a difference.
Picks make a difference.
Cables make a difference.
Everything makes a difference.
But only marginally.
Two players on identical rigs sound vastly different. I sound exactly the same on an ESP Explorer as I do on a Fender Telecaster. I sound the same on single coils as I do on humbuckers or P90's or whatever. Of course there are differences, but they are marginal overall.
If you were to pick up another M8M, both those guitars would sound different, though they have EXACTLY the same specs.
I wouldn't encourage anyone to build their rig upon spec sheets, though, simply because the BIGGEST difference between sounds is the PLAYER.
As long as you enjoy playing your instrument, it's gonna sound good and you'll be able to get great results.
If that means you only enjoy playing on a "spec sheet perfect" rig, then fine. But that's not gonna apply to everyone else. If you're happy on a squire and a cheap SS Marshall, great! But that's not gonna apply to anyone else.
Once you're familiar with YOUR sound, go from there and expand your equipment accordingly.
Would a higher action result in a high pitch on a fretted note?
My OG Holcomb 7 string NEVER sounds like anything vs other guitars on youtube. Honestly the best tone I get out of it is with Aurora dsp's Rhino with the Binary Banana IR. Simple and awesome
Pickups, strings and amp. Tonewood and stuff may have an effect in an acoustic guitar, but definitely not in an electric guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02tImce3AE
Great points.
First in line:
Hands. Fingers. the individual Expressiveness. THOSE control your tone.
I'm honestly surprised how much ignorance and cope is in the comments. If you combine all of the comments then literally nothing about a guitar makes a difference and they all sound the same.
Been thinking of putting a lundgren m8 in my damien platinum 8 just dont know if i need 1 or 2 m8s
I guess I'm 100% delusional because I really don't think "tone is in the hands". Tightness, articulation are in the hands, but I tend to think they're not exactly the same as tone. For me tone is related to frequency spectrum, gain, compression. If for you articulation is tone then ok ????
And the biggest factor… IR’s/CABS
dont shoot me.. i havent changed my strings since i bought it like 6+ years ago ????????
Wait. Theres people that think pickups (the ONE thing picking up string sounds) does NOT have influence on the tone? ????????????????????????????????
I agree, everything makes a difference
Soo whats the secret?
I was able to pull an Adam Jones’s kinda guitar tone out of my Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster through a wampler tumnus into a jhs preamp overdrive and a UAFX dream 65. None of that made sense, but the tone worked.
The guitarist and knowledge of the equipment (both hardware and software) make the tone. Having a good guitar helps, but i make most of my tones through Warman Destroyers (very cheap pickups) or with an sg with p90 or the telly. All of them sound massive and scary.
One thing to note as well, when it comes to production, many double or quad track the guitars for a thick sound
Using amp sims for mixes (of other people's music) can show just how different source (DI) tones can be. The difference in gain and treatment of freq curve both in the amp, and before and after, is massively dependant on the DI. Remember to use a Hi-Z input without gain, fresh pick, fresh strings, pick well, and don't have strings that are way too thick for your tuning, also appropriate scale for that lowest string; you can get away with low in 25.5, but it does seem to sound better with each increase of scale length up to a point, for low-low tunings.
If you're gonna say all this bullshit, provide actual evidence.
Pickups literally do nothing but increase output and reject noise.
Speakers are the most important part of your sound.
The hands myth is beyond the stupidest thing you can say. Your hands are not a fucking EQ.
i think the biggest issue is people just not knowing how to mix, EQ, double track, triple track, using left and right panning, etc
Omg, not again this tonewood nonsence… After words about wood density 0 point to listen further.
Why was I not subscribed to you bro ????
Pickups do sound different. Just not AS MUCH as you'd think.
The fact that no one talks about pickup height when theyre describing what pickups their using for the tone theyre teaching gets to me in the slightest way. The principle of it at least
I don’t know why i can’t figure it out lol. 20 years playing (10 professionally) and my playing technique is solid. I run a countryman 85 into an Apollo twin. I have 7 electric guitars that are all high quality with an assortment of high quality pickups in them.
It’s not that my DIs don’t sound identical to YouTube guys. It’s that the quality of them is just not good. I can run other DIs through just about any preset on an amp sim and it may not be tweaked for that particular guitar, but it always sounds good. Meanwhile i put my own DIs through the same sims and they just sound completely amateur, though the playing technique and the gear is all very solid and professional. I’m really at a loss lol
Every Humbucker on any well setup can sound the same when you compensate for the differences to others. Same goes for single coils, just that single coils can't truly sound like Humbuckers.
My pacifica sounds the same as my Jackson Infinity XLwhen I dial in the settings correctly. The Infinity just can't copy the neck-middle single coils of the pacifica
You could use the scientific method to test some of your hypothesis. E.g. does the bridge really have an impact? They different bridges and listen for differences. Same with wood type etc. Lil Jim made a fantastic video doing this. And it's mostly the pickup selection, pickup position, scalr length and string thickness that shape your tone. The rest is negligible.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n02tImce3AE
Great topic. Yeah, YouTube tone is very different from real life tone. When we listen through YouTube we are not only listening through our phone or computer, but we are listening to a player whose tone is processed through various mics, through their computer and mixing software, and perhaps a plugin if not an amp. It's simply impossible to achieve the same tone we hear through all that processing. As an eleven-year-old would-be shredder in 1985 I'd listen to Dokken's Under Lock and Key and try to figure out what the hell George Lynch was doing to get that tone. In that pre-internet era, I had to track down guitar mags to read every Lynch interview I could find. It didn't matter how much detail George gave. He was working in a studio environment, and I was working out of my bedroom trying to get a solid-state Peavey to sound like a hot-rodded Marshall. No such luck. Never mind I couldn't play like George. The modern-day equivalent to the 80s-bedroom tone conundrum is YouTube tone. I would say this modern environment is even more confusing and opaque than the simpler era in which I came of age as a player. The reason tone is in the hands is because guitar is a hypersensitive instrument. It is very harmonic and can go from melodic to sheer noise in the blink of an eye. Guitar is a very unforgiving instrument, like the violin.
And I smirkingly play a Laguna Blue MM HT-6 as I watch. Mine hs the "P" inlay at the 12th fret though and the "Bulb" laser cut pups cover , so it sounds djentier.
Ya Ive bought a lot of gear based on the guys you showed ! and never got even the pedals as close as well but some still worked but ya its how they did it and you don't know all the detail's its not like they want there video's too suck but maybe there's lots they don't tell you we don't know unless were there with them !
Wood doesn’t affect the sound. Meshuggah ibanez in the video sounds nothing like resonating wood. Cut everything and there will be no changes at all.
Pickups and a huge scale length allows you to get higher string tension with less string thickness, and that gives you a brighter sound.
Plus attack “inside” a guitar, like a slap on the bass, so the string will hit the fretboard and you will get punchy sound and no problems with intonation, because the string will just hit the frets and there will be no excessive up and down motion, that changes the base note and ruin your intonation.
There is nothing more to it.
Its really crazy to think that some musicians have played for years and believe that all the points you made are false. Every small difference adds up to sum of its parts especially when it comes to musical instruments
Great video with good points BUT the vast majority of "average listeners" (especially youtube listeners) are not going to hear the minute differences in tone that an avid guitar player will hear. The OP who said his tone was muddy and flat probably was playing with too much gain or some other setting. That guy could have discussed his setup and someone with a similar setup with better results might offer helpful suggestions on helping the issues? Also, a guitarist who's played for just a few years versus a guy who's played 10 or more are going to get vastly different results. Subscribed!
Agreed. Whoever has studied physics will know how the way that the strings vibrate affects the tone. I won't go into detail about that.
Another thing that makes a huge difference in how does your guitar sound if you're using amp simulation is the output device. For example, if you play with headphones, even if they are studio quality and very expensive, the tone will still be more muddy. If you're using a surround sound system with subwoofer and speakers, it will be more round and clean.
"I will NEVER sound like you." Well, I can assure you that you can Thank your lucky stars for that one.
I get so sick of hearing the pickups don’t matter argument when it’s so damn easy to hear the difference and feel between them usually.
100% Correctamundo!!
Bro explained how guitars work ???? this has nothing to do with the creators. Pretty baity title imo
I like my action as low as possible ????
I think people like Glenn who seem to think nothing matters except the speaker do have a point, most elements of an electric guitar don't make much difference in context. Though one of this problems is he doesn't really tune below D, and I feel like once you get into the lower register of like B and lower the rules definitely do change.
If toan is in the fingers, when can I download impulse responses of all my favorite fingies???!!!